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He showed up in an hour; I came, I saw and I conquered—and not in that order. That night, two fuck buddies were born. Had I become needy? Did I ask him not to see other people? Did I ask him out on a date?
No, no and hells, no. This was strictly a sublet-with-no-option-to-take-over-the-lease situation. So what had gone wrong? It occurred to me that maybe I was just terrible in bed, but I quickly suppressed that thought. And to preserve my enormous ego, I decided that this must be happening to everyone else.
Where have all the fuckers gone? It requires no commitments beyond the sexual encounter itself, no ethical obligation beyond mutual consent. She made no apologies about the fact that she wanted to be done— well done. The fuck buddy was the get-out-of-a-relationship-free card, a pussyport to no-strings-attached sex with unlimited rides.
For women, the fuck buddy beat the one-night stand, easy. Tell me, when did all the dudes freaking turn into chicks? For my last fuck buddy, I made sure I chose a total player —and yet, once he realized I was only in it for the sex, he lost it.
A few stools down, a year-old travel agent named Ashley was watching two beer maidens dry-hump each other on top of the bar.
The night he promised to fold my laundry if I let him stay, I knew I had to cut him loose. The fuck buddy has a less crude, more prude cousin: When questioned by reporters, actress Lindsay Lohan she of the Disney movies even used the term to describe her relationship with a reputed actor boyfriend Wilmer Valderamma. Scott Mebus, year-old author of Booty Nomad, said: The girl or guy who wants more—relationship, sober conversation, etc. This is where the F. Hopefully there are no mutual friends.
Guys are looking for variety and women are the ones who want a relationship, and being a fuck buddy is a relationship, whether you want to call it that or not. Why are men shying away from string-free shagging? Ehrhardt, professor of medical psychology at Columbia University. An aggressive girl suggests two things: These things are terribly frightening to a guy. Why do you think we all love year-olds? I thought she was kidding—until we both woke up the next morning for a little morning sex, and, within two minutes of completion, she had her clothes on and was out the door.
No breakfast, no cuddling, no nothing. Needless to say, that was the last time we slept together. But are women hopping out of bed so abruptly because, when they lingered in the past, they ended up getting burned? Guys seem to be taken aback by the bluntness of it all and then withdraw—literally.
Mebus, who admitted that he once bailed out on a fuck buddy when he started developing feelings for her. I met Paula, a gorgeous black woman, at a Serafina restaurant in New York, the one downtown at Lafayette.
In New York there are duplicates and chains, but sometimes the owners conflict: Paula was attending a buffet dinner organized by a group of Italian professionals honoring the visit to New York City by Emma Bonino, a famous politician. Pinot, Chianti, Sangiovese, all the same for you? The less experienced customer in the cheapest Italian bar would never let the barman choose his wine. Got her number, called the next day.
I had just moved from Milan to New York, she was my first date. Invited her to a movie, then to Lotus. My journalist colleague Christian Rocca had advised me about the best clubs, but also about their best nights: What a difference from the wine superficiality. So, it was Lotus on Tuesdays and Pangaea on Thursdays.
American night clubs, however, share with the Italian ones four disgraces. But on Wednesdays and Fridays I work, and because of the time zone, I have to start rather early to be connected with my European headquarters.
Rap, dance, house, garage, whatever. I found it only at Bar Bat, a tourist trap on 57th Street full of obese middle-aged, which is now closed for good.
They understand only two words: I was still awake and the music was good enough to get up and move. And Lord, she could move …. Turning her shoulders on me, she pressed her ass on my groin, dancing slowly and throwing in seducing glances from time to time. I got an erection. Tried to kiss her, she refused. In the taxi she pronounced those revolting words you hear in the movies:.
She kissed me, without opening her mouth. Went to bed, she undressed completely. My God, what a perfect and slender body …. We laid down, our lips touched again. But her mouth was sealed. Was it her revenge for the wine squabble? I was shocked, but still able to joke: By that time my erection had gone.
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In humans, the term is used to describe individual sexual behaviors as well as long-term relationships, but in some usages connotes a gay or lesbian social identity.
Scientific writing would benefit from reserving this anthropomorphic term for humans and not using it to describe behavior in other animals, because of its deeply rooted context in human society". Animal preference and motivation is always inferred from behavior. In wild animals, researchers will as a rule not be able to map the entire life of an individual, and must infer from frequency of single observations of behavior.
In most instances, it is presumed that the homosexual behavior is but part of the animal's overall sexual behavioral repertoire, making the animal "bisexual" rather than "homosexual" as the terms are commonly understood in humans. The observation of homosexual behavior in animals can be seen as both an argument for and against the acceptance of homosexuality in humans, and has been used especially against the claim that it is a peccatum contra naturam "sin against nature".
For instance, homosexuality in animals was cited by the American Psychiatric Association and other groups in their amici curiae brief to the United States Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas , which ultimately struck down the sodomy laws of 14 states. A majority of the research available concerning homosexual behavior in animals lacks specification between animals that exclusively exhibit same-sex tendencies and those that participate in heterosexual and homosexual mating activities interchangeably.
This lack of distinction has led to differing opinions and conflicting interpretations of collected data amongst scientists and researchers.
For instance, Bruce Bagemihl , author of the book Biological Exuberence: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity , emphasizes that there are no anatomical or endocrinological differences between exclusively homosexual and exclusively heterosexual animal pairs. Many of the animals used in laboratory-based studies of homosexuality do not appear to spontaneously exhibit these tendencies often in the wild.
Such behavior is often elicited and exaggerated by the researcher during experimentation through the destruction of a portion of brain tissue, or by exposing the animal to high levels of steroid hormones prenatally. Homosexual behaviour in animals has been discussed since classical antiquity. The earliest written mention of animal homosexuality appears to date back to 2, years ago, when Aristotle — BC described copulation between pigeons, partridges and quails of the same sex.
Until recent times, the presence of same-sex sexual behavior was not "officially" observed on a large scale, possibly due to observer bias caused by social attitudes to same-sex sexual behavior,  innocent confusion, lack of interest, distaste, scientists fearing loss of their grants or even from a fear of "being ridiculed by their colleagues". The true extent of homosexuality in animals is not known. No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis.
Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue. An example of overlooking homosexual behavior is noted by Bagemihl describing mating giraffes where nine out of ten pairings occur between males:. Every male that sniffed a female was reported as sex, while anal intercourse with orgasm between males was only "revolving around" dominance, competition or greetings.
Some researchers believe this behavior to have its origin in male social organization and social dominance, similar to the dominance traits shown in prison sexuality. Others have argued that social organization theory is inadequate because it cannot account for some homosexual behaviors, for example, penguin species where male individuals mate for life and refuse to pair with females when given the chance. In fact, apparent homosexual individuals are known from all of the traditional domestic species, from sheep, cattle and horses to cats, dogs and budgerigars.
A definite physiological explanation or reason for homosexual activity in animal species has not been agreed upon by researchers in the field. Numerous scholars are of the opinion that varying levels either higher or lower of the sex hormones in the animal,  in addition to the size of the animal's gonads,  play a direct role in the sexual behavior and preference exhibited by that animal.
Others firmly argue no evidence to support these claims exists when comparing animals of a specific species exhibiting homosexual behavior exclusively and those that do not. Ultimately, empirical support from comprehensive endocrinological studies exist for both interpretations. Additional studies pertaining to hormone involvement in homosexual behavior indicate that when administering treatments of testosterone and estradiol to female heterosexual animals, the elevated hormone levels increase the likelihood of homosexual behavior.
Additionally, boosting the levels of sex hormones during an animal's pregnancy appears to increase the likelihood of it birthing a homosexual offspring. Researchers found that disabling the fucose mutarotase FucM gene in laboratory mice — which influences the levels of estrogen to which the brain is exposed — caused the female mice to behave as if they were male as they grew up. However, in addition to homosexual behavior, several abnormal behaviors were also exhibited apparently due to this mutation.
In March , research showed that serotonin is involved in the mechanism of sexual orientation of mice. An estimated one-quarter of all black swans pairings are of males. They steal nests, or form temporary threesomes with females to obtain eggs, driving away the female after she lays the eggs. The males spent time in each other's society, guarded the common territory, performed greeting ceremonies before each other, and in the reproductive period pre-marital rituals, and if one of the birds tried to sit on the other, an intense fight began.
The same reasoning has been applied to male flamingo pairs raising chicks. Female albatross, on the north-western tip of the island of Oahu, Hawaii, form pairs for co-growing offspring. Research has shown that the environmental pollutant methylmercury can increase the prevalence of homosexual behavior in male American white ibis. The study involved exposing chicks in varying dosages to the chemical and measuring the degree of homosexual behavior in adulthood.
The results discovered was that as the dosage was increased the likelihood of homosexual behavior also increased. The endocrine blocking feature of mercury has been suggested as a possible cause of sexual disruption in other bird species. Mallards form male-female pairs only until the female lays eggs, at which time the male leaves the female. Penguins have been observed to engage in homosexual behaviour since at least as early as The report was considered too shocking for public release at the time, and was suppressed.
The only copies that were made available privately to researchers were translated into Greek, to prevent this knowledge becoming more widely known. The report was unearthed only a century later, and published in Polar Record in June In early February the New York Times reported that Roy and Silo , a male pair of chinstrap penguins in the Central Park Zoo in New York City had successfully hatched and fostered a female chick from a fertile egg they had been given to incubate. In Odense Zoo in Denmark, a pair of male king penguins adopted an egg that had been abandoned by a female, proceeding to incubate it and raise the chick.
Researchers at Rikkyo University in Tokyo found 20 homosexual pairs at 16 major aquariums and zoos in Japan. The Bremerhaven Zoo in Germany attempted to encourage reproduction of endangered Humboldt penguins by importing females from Sweden and separating three male pairs, but this was unsuccessful.
The zoo's director said that the relationships were "too strong" between the homosexual pairs. A pair of male Magellanic penguins who had shared a burrow for six years at the San Francisco Zoo and raised a surrogate chick, split when the male of a pair in the next burrow died and the female sought a new mate. Buddy and Pedro, a pair of male African penguins , were separated by the Toronto Zoo to mate with female penguins. Chupchikoni was assumed to be male until her blood was tested.
In Jumbs and Hurricane, two Humboldt penguins at Wingham Wildlife Park became the center of international media attention as two male penguins who had pair bonded a number of years earlier and then successfully hatched and reared an egg given to them as surrogate parents after the mother abandoned it halfway through incubation.
In two male griffon vultures named Dashik and Yehuda, at the Jerusalem Biblical Zoo , engaged in "open and energetic sex" and built a nest. The keepers provided the couple with an artificial egg, which the two parents took turns incubating; and 45 days later, the zoo replaced the egg with a baby vulture.
The two male vultures raised the chick together. Dashik became depressed, and was eventually moved to the zoological research garden at Tel Aviv University where he too set up a nest with a female vulture. Two male vultures at the Allwetter Zoo in Muenster built a nest together, although they were picked on and their nest materials were often stolen by other vultures.
They were eventually separated to try to promote breeding by placing one of them with female vultures, despite the protests of German homosexual groups. Both male and female pigeons sometimes exhibit homosexual behavior. In addition to sexual behavior, same-sex pigeon pairs will build nests, and hens will lay infertile eggs and attempt to incubate them. The Amazon river dolphin or boto has been reported to form up in bands of 3—5 individuals engaging in sexual activity.
The groups usually comprise young males and sometimes one or two females. Sex is often performed in non-reproductive ways, using snout, flippers and genital rubbing, without regard to gender. Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls has been noted to occur among American bison. The Mandan nation Okipa festival concludes with a ceremonial enactment of this behavior, to "ensure the return of the buffalo in the coming season". The behaviour is hormone driven and synchronizes with the emergence of estrus heat , particularly in the presence of a bull.
More than 20 species of bat have been documented to engage in homosexual behavior. Bat species that have been observed engaging in homosexual behavior in captivity include the Comoro flying fox Pteropus livingstonii , the Rodrigues flying fox Pteropus rodricensis and the common vampire bat Desmodus rotundus. Homosexual behavior in bats has been categorized into 6 groups: In the wild, the grey-headed flying fox Pteropus poliocephalus engages in allogrooming wherein one partner licks and gently bites the chest and wing membrane of the other partner.
Both sexes display this form of mutual homosexual grooming and it is more common in males. Males often have erect penises while they are mutually grooming each other.
In wild Bonin flying foxes Pteropus pselaphon , males perform fellatio or 'male-male genital licking' on other males. Male—male genital licking events occur repeatedly several times in the same pair, and reciprocal genital licking also occurs. The male-male genital licking in these bats is considered a sexual behavior. Allogrooming in Bonin flying foxes has never been observed, hence the male-male genital licking in this species does not seem to be a by-product of allogrooming, but rather a behavior of directly licking the male genital area, independent of allogrooming.
In wild Indian flying foxes Pteropus giganteus , males often mount one another, with erections and thrusting, while play-wrestling. A similar behavior was also observed in the common bent-wing bat Miniopterus schreibersii. In wild little brown bats Myotis lucifugus , males often mount other males and females during late autumn and winter, when many of the mounted individuals are torpid.
The lethargic males, like females, called out loudly and presented their buccal glands with opened mouth during copulation. This section has some graphic parts.
I just want to warn you. Some might enjoy it while others not so much. Her speech was slurred, but she still seemed somewhat in control of her faculties. I can beat you drunk or sober. Somebody deal the damn cards! The next game was astonishingly short.
Ron and his mom never stood a chance as the cards seemed stacked against them. When Alison played her last card, she crowed triumphantly.
Evelick looked at her for a moment. Then she surprised me by getting onto the floor and opening her mouth. But amazingly her mother acted like it was quite all right as she urged her daughter to pee all over her.
Then it was my turn. Let her rip, baby! I really had to go, so I just pointed and then allowed it to flow. Alison egged me on, telling me to pee all over her mom and to coat her with my piss. Amazingly, Evelick egged me on by encouraging me, the kinky bitch! I thought it would be humiliating as hell. Amazingly she licked up every drop! We took a break from playing cards for a bite of dessert. It was quite good, and it was served with hot coffee, something I figured everyone could use including both drunken females.
Alison looked at her mother and thought about it for a second. Then she got this big grin. If you lose, you get a whipping. I would love to see Riwa whip that ass and those tits of yours, mom! Now this was really getting kinky! Ron was more than a little excited about the possibility of whipping Alison. When it was over Alison and I had lost. I was surprised Alison went willingly. We took her down to their basement where her mom tied her off with her arms outstretched before Ron whipped her ass and backside.
I was forced to watch helplessly as his mother egged him on while my hard cock stiffened with arousal. Evelick saw my situation and immediately knelt right in front of me. When Ron asked her what he should do with his sister, she paused long enough to suggest whipping her tits before taking my cock back into her mouth.
Then he began brutally flogging her tits. Alison screamed, but that only made my cock twitch and spasm. Alison yelled at Ron to take it easy. But he was clearly enjoying himself. She was finally let go before we all went back upstairs. Her body had red welts all over her. I could tell she was itching for revenge. Have you no shame?? What do you want your brother to do to you when you lose again?
You want it to be a surprise? Does that mean I get to think of something to do to you when you lose? I was thinking about putting a stop to the whole thing when Ron grabbed my arm and shook his head.
In an instant I could see what he was thinking. With both women losing their inhibitions with all the drinking and gamesmanship, it was only a matter of time before something seriously sexual happened… or maybe something even worse. The game seesawed back and forth before Alison and I finally came out on top. Then she turned toward her brother. Evelick dutifully stretched out on her back, never one to shy away from a debt she owed.
A moment later Ron returned with a red ball-gag and a bowl full of clothespins. This was going to be interesting. Each time another one went on, Evelick whimpered in pain until Alison had used every last one, leaving her mom looking like a pincushion.
Alison instructed her mother to play the next game just like that. She released her wrists and watched as her mom got up and dutifully settled into her chair. Amazingly she seemed ready to play cards again: What surprised me even more was the way she and Ron actually won the next game despite the pain she was in. Alison was crushed, and she sat there stunned. Ron and I eagerly waited to see what would happen next as Evelick calmly got up out of her chair and left the room. We heard her painful cries from the back of the house.
I could only assume she was removing clothespins. She returned with a huge black dildo which she gave to her daughter. At first Alison was a little indignant… that is, until she saw our lustful expressions. That seemed to change her mind. The opportunity to show off to us must have overridden any embarrassment. Then she slid the dildo into her pussy. It was huge, and it really stretched her as she took it. Fuck it like you mean it! Make yourself cum for us, baby! We all want to watch you cum!
Rub that clit of yours and get off for us, baby! Alison really got into it as we all cheered her on. Maybe she liked the attention, or maybe she wanted to be more of a whore than her mother.
At any rate she furiously rubbed herself until she had a shuddering climax. We were all visibly impressed. Alison slowly pulled it out, but her mother smiled wickedly at her. Your mom sure as hell could. First she got on her hands and knees. Then she began pushing it into her anus.
She winced as her anal ring started to give, and she whimpered in pain as she slowly slid it inside. Alison thrust it in and out, whimpering how big it was. But once she saw how our cocks were standing at attention, she actually started throwing herself into it.
Grabbing on tight she looked lustfully at Ron and I before really fucking her shit-hole. She sat and fingered herself to orgasm while we all watched.
This is for Ron and Riwa, right? Or are you afraid it might hurt a little. Amazingly her mother did as she was told. Then Alison smiled before closing her hand into a fist and showing it to the two of us. Evelick got this wide-eyed look on her face as her daughter pushed her fist against her cunt.
It slowly gave way until we all watched incredulously as it went further and further inside. Her daughter started thrusting harder and harder. Do it harder, honey!
Fist your slut-whore mother! Fuck; make it hurt! Evelick had a screaming orgasm. But Alison brutally fisted her mom until the poor thing had two more. Then she pulled her fist out as the two women looked at us, panting heavily for breath. Ron and I were both sporting serious erections. Alison looked at her mother and then looked at us before nodding. Alison looked like she was more than willing. She told her brother she was going to give him her best blowjob ever.
Then she started right in, taking him deep down her throat. Ron moaned while I was left watching a hot incestuous scene with mother, daughter and brother. Alison sucked him like a pro. I think we're more likely to be approached by two guys, as nobody run the risk of being "stuck with the uglier one", to be blunt. If I go out with anyone else, I always get all the attention, and it's the same for her.
She's openly told me I am the only friend she has whom gives her 'competition' when meeting men although she claims not to be competitive. The main difference between us is personality-wise. I am more introverted, in daily life I'd say a bit shy, but after a glass of wine, I'm quite chatty.
However my friend is not only extroverted, she's very flirtatious. I've even had this confirmed from others who say that she does this thing when she smiles which sends signals to guys that is interested, and perhaps also up for fun.
She's had a number of serious boyfriends, but also a great deal of one night stands - her partner count would be around 50 or so. I am in my early twenties, my partner count is It's really not a low number, although around her I feel like a prude.
She is currently not looking for a boyfriend, only casual sex. I am not looking for casual sex the casual I've had in the past have been mostly FWB , preferably a future boyfriend. She does not dress provocatively, talk openly about sex or touch guys physically. But I think she somehow sends signals that she is 'available for fun' through her body language or the way she looks at guys.
Do you think you or men in general usually can pick up these things? So there are several problems related to this: Secondly, I feel like her ways affects us both.
If I go out with another friend, who's a virgin, we're seen differently. If I go out with her, we're 'two blondes' out clubbing. I liked 'my' guy, but I felt like HER going home with him added pressure on us and that my guy probably felt like he was 'missing out' as his friend got laid that night, and not him. It's like she's injected casual sex into the evening and it can never really lead anywhere for anyone, if you know what I mean.
So, I really don't go out much with her anymore. She's complained about it, and thinks it's because I'm jealous and prefer friends who are less attractive than myself. I cannot cut her completely out of my life, she's part of it in several ways. Not that I think she would seduce a boyfriend of mine, but I don't want there to be flirtation there.
Do I completely cut her out? Try to be more flirtatious and 'selling myself' as well? I think the post you were thinking about is " I Can't Believe I Forgot This One " In any case, yes, I think men can and do pick up on the signals your friend gives off. These are mostly given by the eyes and body language posture especially , and I think in many instances, men pick up on them subconsciously. I disagree somewhat that men in bars focus their efforts more on women who look available for sex though.
These women might get into more conversations because they are more open to those conversations, but men in many isntances might prefer a quiter girl that they have trouble figuring out how to approach because she is reserved. None of my guy friends go for the easy girls. You're looking for a serious boyfriend in a bar? The kind of guy you're looking for is NOT there, the same applies for men looking for serious girlfriends. After reading your post, it seems you are comparing yourself to your friend, who is a slut.
You feel BAD about having a count of 11 to her 50? You and your friend will lose more often than not. We don't like women with high partner counts for serious relationships, she's just more likely to not be satisfied with the relationship. It is good that you don't hang with her so much anymore. It is not healthy to compare yourself to a slut when you are looking for a deeper relationship with men.
If you're still looking for a serious boyfriend, stop going to bars to pick up men. I agree with sleeping with a guy on the first date is not a good idea just as I agree that waiting for marriage before sex is the best option. I just refuse to believe that most men are this cruel and coniving, its almost like stealing from a blind person, I do believe that there are some low down men in the world but I hope women reading this realize that thier are a lot of men who may sleep with you because thats all they want to do and at the end of it they didnt think of you in a negative way thats just all they wanted at the time or in some cases they realize they like you for more.
As women we do have to be a step ahead of men and let them continue to believe that we are still these vulnerable creatures they think we are but do know they break way harder than we do when the player card is in our favor. Another article about how it's okay for a guy to sleep around but not for a woman. Ever thought what you men look like when you jump from woman to woman trying to get laid for the night? STI's are indiscriminate, it's not okay for either gender to sleep around.
And condoms can and do break. In any case, you seem like one of those guys that has a whore complex: It's almost sociopathic how you compartmentalise the two. In any case, when you sleep with a slut, what does that make you? How does that make you any better than her? I do compartmentalize, yes. And I do think it is OK to have sex with a girl who isn't willing to filter me out, yes. However, I don't fuck sluts. I don't like them because I assume they have STDs and I am rarely drunk enough to become indifferent to that consideration.
In fact I would need to prove myself more attractive than the other men she would be willing to sleep with. Easy for her, hard for me. They have to work to get women. A good wife is just as likely to catch an STD as a slut even if she was a virgin when she married and faithful after marriage, if the husband fucks around without a condom. In Africa most married women who have HIV have been infected by their husbands. You have to be careful because you can get Herpes from someone with no visible sign of it but virus is still in their body , and then it can be passed on through oral sex.
If there's anything that puts me off sleeping around, it's that. I had a friend whose ex boyfriend infected her with Chlamydia they were on and off. Then while she was on antibiotics, he told her he didn't mind getting reinfected so they could have sex again.
I don't get why some people are so casual about that stuff. I have never had an STI and would be pretty upset if I did get one. Yeah I've made a few mistakes in my time but I don't like how women are still expected to be the condom police. In my experience men will do whatever they can get away with. I haven't come across many men who'll think about putting a condom on without being asked.
That disturbs me as well. I hope that the blog author is a responsible guy around women, because two many men aren't. I'm not suggesting women don't have any responsibility as well, it's just something I'm acutely aware of. You say men dont want relationships with women who give it up on the first date because they conclude such women are sluts.
This lowers the woman's value. Then you say you are not a "slut-fucker" because you won't sleep with slutty women for casual sex even. But if the definition YOU are using for being a slut is a woman who sleeps with a man quickly, then aren't ANY women who willingly slept with you on a first date sluts?
Perhaps you felt you put more effort in to seduce her, and her playing hard to get gave you the impression she is not easy. But what if she plays that game a lot?
And women work to get laid also. Even if I wanted a casual lay, it would be hard because I have many of the same mental blocks that shy, "nice guys" have. I'd probably have to settle for someone sub-par, just as you say men do. I think you're deceiving yourself if you think you're not a slut also. And while other men may cheer you on, women are judging you also.
A woman does not want to be valued as such in a relationship. Self-control is a good quality in a mate. He also shows a need to be validated by his sexual prowess, which signals an insecurity.
So a smart woman who values herself will also steer clear of slutty men for relationships. And how do we define slutty for men? In the same way - sleeping with lots of women casually, regardless of effort involved. You have some good points, but you are wrong about STDs. I am a Nursing student and studied infectious diseases, men are equally susceptible to those infections as women are.
In some diseases, women have a higher percentage of asymptomatic disease than men, whereas in others is on the contrary. Both men and women may be asymptomatic carriers. HPV can cause warts in both men and women. HIV can kill men and women equally.
You are very misinformed here. For your own sake, get a check up and always use condoms!!!!!!!!!! HPV can cause cervical cancer in women, but obviously it cannot cause the same cancer in men. However, if a man eats out a woman who has certain strains of HPV, he can contract it in his mouth, which could cause oral cancer like the type that Roger Ebert has.
Ebert had to have much of his jaw bone removed and can no longer talk as a result. I heard rumors that he used to eat out hookers before he was married. Although that rumor sounds absurd if it is true, that could be how he ended up with oral cancer. Also, regarding HIV, although it can kill men and women equally, studies show that women are much more likely than men to contract HIV through unprotected heterosexual sex. There is some wrong information here. HPV, which is sexually contracted, is related to several types of cancer, as cervical, anal and throat cancer.
The two latter occurs with men as well in fact, more frequently than they do with women. HIV naturally has a higher chance of being transmitted from men to women than the other way around, but once both a man and woman have HIV, the effects are worse for men.
In every other aspect than muscle strength, men are physically the feeble gender and doesn't respond as well to treatments.
You are wrong about STDs. They affect both women and men equally. I am a Nursing student and studied infectious diseases. Please always use a condom!!!
I will always emphasize it to patients!! You can get HIV as any woman, just because you are a man does not mean you are not to be infected! I'm European as Americans call it , and most guys I know are much more liberal than this, to the extent that they don't just 'tolerate' women being promiscuous, they genuinely argument for equality in this area as well particularly Mediterranean and Scandinavian men.
I've observed female friends whose promiscuity don't have any effect on their chances for relationships provided they have other things to bring to the table. I'm known as 'conservative' among people I know. I agree with your post, and I think it is not worth the risk - you can only really gain from postponing the sex a little. I agree with the title of the post and I think this is the main point - don't fuck on the first date.
However I think this is far more important than delaying the sex further. Of course it benefits the woman to get commitment from the man before having sex, because we do get very attached after intercourse. But if you're from a society where a lot of people have sex as soon as they feel like it which is the case in many European capitals , you can't really expect someone to make you official before even testing things in bed.
I wonder if you think it is this way for American men too - the longer you postpone sex, the better - but you lose far more by having sex on the 1st date rather than the 2nd, than you do from doing it the 2nd rather than the 3rd?
I think wait as long as you can trust them. Some people are never trustworthy. I'm European as well British and I know exactly what you're getting at. I know many men, maybe a lot, who want to test things out in bed before making it official. But I don't like to submit to that because it would make me feel vulnerable. The only reason I would, would be if I wasn't very interested in the guy, but that kind of situation isn't preferable to me either.
At the same time, I think other people take sex too seriously and I don't like to build up to it as if it's some big event because I don't consider it a big deal. But I think you are right to some extent. For me, sex would be in official territory. Still I meet plenty of men who think they have me snagged as their girlfriend because of a kiss. I'm from Poland and I bet that most "serious" guys, i. OTOH, the guys who like short-term relationships or serial LTR without ending them with marriage, may actually prefer "experienced" girl.
It's a matter of decision of woman, what type of man they prefer. In addition, there is this correlation between ratio of divorces and number of sexual partners for woman - I remember reading at athol's blog? As for woman being enraged by the thought we think like that, well, you can continue to live within your fantasy world. Your rage at the fact won't change the basic fact.
And yes, there are exceptions. I know a pair of people, who made it at the first date, in the parking lot outside of a club and they cohabitate for some 9 years now, with one daughter. Unfortunately, the greatest source of this double standard is other women.
Most of the men I know will fuck on the first date, we'll even come back to the trough, and we'll tell our friends too.
And all the guys in the clique will take turns taking her out, and fucking her, and as long as she's not a pain in the ass, we'll even let her hang with us and we'll enjoy her company too. But we won't usually have a relationship with her, and we'll try to rescue our friends when they do want to become serious. Women hate "sluts" to the point in some cases of outright shunning them.
And women don't even need any actual proof if this sluttiness, much of the time the shunning will happen because of mere hearsay. And men know that if they date one of these women, he won't be dating any of the other women, and his friends won't be allowed to hang with him anymore. Trust me ladies, we really do listen, and when you use slut or whore to describe a woman, we know that she's ok for a fuck buddy, but not to take out in public.
Personally, I like slutty girls, they're less uptight about stupid shit, more fun in general, and you have much improved chance of the evening ending in sex. Especially if you treat her with respect. Hell, my wife of 20 years picked me up in a bar, and gave it up on the first date. So this isn't the hard and fast rule, and lots of guys will deny it. That first paragraph is disgusting. I pity your wife, you're not marriage material. Only good thing about posts like these is to once in a while remind women what kind of assholes are really walking around out there.
I understand why this double-standard exists but I try not to use the words 'slut' or 'whore' because I'm not interested in shaming any of my own gender, nor do I like the term 'manwhore' because it's gender normative. And it cuts both ways. I'm totally turned off by men who bed a lot of women or think they know all their is too know about that intimate stuff. Kind of shocking to read this but I understand it to be fairly accurate because I've spent enough time listening in to what men talk about when they think you're out of earshot.
What if the man begins pressuring you intensely for sex before you've had it for the first time and you've only known each other a week or two? You increase your insistence that you won't sleep with him, and more importantly, you stay away from situations that could lead to that pressure e. This post was pretty black and white. I think there's alot more detail involved. But overall I thought it was accurate.
I especially like the 6th paragraph about double standards. I think both sexes complain about the ones that affect them negatively and take for granted the ones they benefit from. In the end the double standards even themselves out. The advantageous ones offset the negative ones, for both sexes.
But there are balances to this phenomenon: This is a product of the same phenomenon: A woman is judged negatively for having promiscuous sex because it takes no skill or effort on her part; all that is required is her assent. There will never be a deficit of sexually willing and attractive men from which she can select if she chooses. A woman looking for a man should be taught these things, should consider them, and should understand that having sex too readily will automatically cause men to lose respect for her, and dismiss her as nothing more than a source of easy sex.
I need help with a dilemma I went out with this guy I've known for many years last week for the first time romantically and due to a number of factors ended up drunk and in bed with him. No sex happened but still enough happened for my liking.
Although he seemed impressed I didn't put out and has expressed interest in seeing me again, I just sense that there is something different.. I'm just very embarrassed and not sure how to redeem myself in his eyes if there is a problem.
Half of me thinks I should just forget it and move on but at the same time I do like him and don't want him fading out on me with a bad impression.
What should I do? Next time you have the opportunity, mention casually that you think you went a little too far - even though it was fun - for the stage of the relationship you are at with him now. Then continue as if it didn't happen.
Do guys think you're slutty if you give head on the first night? Does that count as sex to men too? Does it turn off men to wanting a relationship with you if you say you don't want to have regular sex but would be okay with giving oral that first night?
I think this is the mistake I made with the last guy I met. Hi Andrew, Appreciate your psote and agree with it. Iam currently in a long distnace relationship. We have dated for 3 months he has done all of the visits to m. We are still not intimate only 2nd base. He has accepted and respected this, but there is a lot of attraction and it is hard for us to restraints ourselfs- He told me he is cool with my decision to wait but hopes it would happen one day.
The wedding is saturday and we will be spending the next three days mostly on our own. I still want to get to know him slow befoer going to bed with him. In part because in ldr you get to know people slower. But not sure how to achive this, or if I should just not go to Fl. Should I ask to stay in separate rooms. Is it ok to go slowly before intercouse, like 3 rd base and sleep in the same bed or would that be considered a tease.
Do men really feel 'rejected' when you turn them down for sex? A guy made a serious physical move on me and I turned him down. He asked if I found him attractive I told him yes but that I don't do that.
He got silent for the night and a bit 'awkward'. I bumped into him again the next day, he came over and asked how I was, but really kept his distance and is weird around me. I think he's a player so I won't bother with him, but I'm curious if some men genuinely feel rejected when you turn them down for sex, even if it the first time you hang out with them? I'm thinking you surely don't expect first night-sex? Does it mean he's used to easy girls? In many cases, yes, it will hurt. It hurts more in proportion to how little he cares about you, because this is proportional, in turn, to how much he thinks you should be into him.
If you turn him down, it could be a big hit to his ego. Imagine if you talked to a guy in a bar all night, had what you thought was a great conversation, knew he was single, etc. At the end of the night he asks for your number but then never called.
How would you feel? It is the same thing in a way. By turning him down for sex you are saying "I am not attracted to you enough. Men know that your willingness to submit to them for sex is directly related to how attracted you are to them. I guess that makes sense. But I personally thought men put women in two categories, those who sleep with guys on the first date and those who don't.
That's why girls can be practically offended if a guy goes too far right away. Even if I met my celebrity crush - Clive Owen - and he seemed to be into me, I like him enough that I would still hope for him to contact me sometime. I know girls who'd go home with a guy, but refuse sex and hope that a night of chatting will still have him call them. Sure some guys will assume "if I was hotter, she'd do me", but it seems a bit strange when girls are usually judged for it? Even this blog seem to have that typical male view - if she sleeps with you on a first date, she does that with everybody.
You'd label her "easy", you wouldn't think to yourself that "she made an exception for me because I'm hot". Guys even make fun of girls saying "this is the first time I do this". I've read comments saying so on blogs! Most of my friends have had an ONS once or twice in their life, but don't make it a lifestyle. I guess I'm confused by this particular situation because there is no reason I should count myself lucky to be with this guy.
I think I could have asked anyone and they'd objectively say I'm more attractive than him - I can usually have my pick in bars. Could be his taste meant that I was less attractive, but he was still attracted enough to go for it? I suggest that you try to initiate a little bit of intimacy to show him that you aren't opposed to it. If he responds well, then you can start to let him initiate again, but if you did hurt his ego, you'll need to make up for that by showing him that your refusal didn't mean you aren't attracted to him.
And I never said it would make him less attracted to you if he feels rejected. The opposite is probably closer to the truth. I'm still quite young so I really appreciate this post. Like many girls today, I've been raised to believe that "if he likes you, it doesn't matter if you have sex right away", which is ridiculous. Or worse yet "you don't want a man who judges you for that".
It's painful to see how many girls still believe this, even in their late twenties. Do you know guys or have male friends that are complete players and you believe they cannot be changed? As in "that guys will never settle for ONE woman". There are guys, in either their 20s, 30s or 40s who have slept with a LOT of women - they may be businessmen, musicians, half-famous or whatever. Should you steer clear if he's been around and you know that for a fact or be an optimist and think that he just hasn't met the right person yet?
That is a tough question, and one that I don't entirely have the answer to. Every guy is different, so it isn't always obvious that they CAN'T settle down, or change - but more often than not, your best assumption should be that a guy will stay the way he is. That being said, "the way he is" isn't something you can judge just by seeing that he sleeps around or has a temper, etc. You need a much deeper knowledge of the person to determine whether or not they can settle down or calm down, or stop being abusive, etc.
I know that isn't the answer you were looking for, but unfortuantely I don't think there is a clear-cut answer to that one like "if a guy has more than 20 partners avoid him because he will be a cheater. Sex on first date is a red flag, not an automatic disqualifier. Yes, it suggests that you probably aren't the first guy she fell quickly for and probably won't be the last.
The key word is "suggests. If you're a woman, want to sleep with a guy on the first date, and still want him to invest and commit, you'll just have to overcome the "slut" handicap. It's not impossible to overcome, in fact for some it's probably quite easy, but pretending it isn't a handicap is willful ignorance.
Also just to be clear, not fucking on the first date doesn't mean being completely shy and closed-off is a good idea either.
That just sends the impression you aren't interested. What about doing other things but not actual intercourse? Like oral sex for instance? Like if you said you only have sex as in all the way in committed relationships, but ended up doing other things on a first date, what might then be your chances of a serious relationship with the average guy?
Why would you want to have oral sex with a guy on a first date? Do you really feel like you know a guy after a few hours together - to the point that you'd be that intimate with him? You could still date the guy. I agree with the sentiment of Lad's comment above. BUT, oral will still be a red flag for a guy who is looking for something serious. That being said, if he engages in oral sex with you i. Not like it was planned. I had actually never done something like that before with a guy I just met but one thing led to another and: I felt really bad after and wish I knew how to redeem myself, but I guess I fucked up.
What makes it worse is that it wasn't even an actual date. Shame cuz we had so much in common though. You think if I hold out from now on with him it might help the situation, or he already thinks I'm just a slut at this point?
He's been messaging me, but I think that's just because he wants another round I'm a woman and use the following question to decide if I sleep with a guy on a first date or do a ONS: Might I want this guy to be my boyfriend someday? A If the answer is yes, then I try to get to know him better, develop rapport, etc. If he sees me as a "person" and not just a P. B If the answer is no, then I sleep with him with no expectations of a call back or any relationship.
C If the answer is "I'm not sure" -- I treat him like a guy I want to be my someday-boyfriend until I make a decision. B really ensures that you only have ONS with or sleep with guys on a first dateS you don't care to have a relationship with and, therefore, won't be hurt if he disappears.
A and C ensure that you don't get "red flagged" for being too easy and thereby forfeiting the possibility of being seen as girl-friend material. I guess what I meant was "why would you feel the need to have oral sex on a first date? If things escalate again, say something like "Hey look, I actually like you and don't want to turn this into something purely sexual, so I want to back off a little bit to see where things go before we keep hooking up.
The "Anonmyous" woman publishing her selection criteria for ONS is disgusting. I am a man, 49 years of age, and I would consider such a woman as "easy" in the worst sense. Indeed, I dumped an otherwise attractive woman after having been with her for 18 months after I learned not from her, she had told me outright lies in this respect her "history": In sum a NoGo for anything remotely serious.
Are you kidding me? This woman you dumped has done much LESS than the vast majority of men out there, yourself included no doubt. Yet you think SHE'S disgusting? Men like you make me sick. What the woman you dumped did was the same as what most men do. In fact you did her a favour by dumping her, I know I would not want to be married to someone like you. I have an interesting perspective I lost my virginity at 24, I am not a purity ring wearing girl, It was just my choice simply waited in till I felt ready.
When topic would come up I was surprised by the contrast in reactions I got from Men verses women with my male friends I felt like I got more respect,at times more attractive even. Women when they found this out, would often treat me like I was sixteen old girl who was naive.
They would give me a hard time about and say cruel things. Meredith, ignore them, if they carry on being asses ditch them as friends, I didn't do it till i was Even now 8 years on i'm still a bit on the line of get to know the person first.
Because i had 3 experiences where i didn't really know the guy and it didn't bode well for me, i felt crappy about it. Personally, if my spirit disagrees i'm not for it. Saved myself a lot of hassle this way. As for your friends, tell them to get lost. It is your body and if you decided to wait till marriage so be it! I'm sure if you'd had double figures or more they'd be the first to call you all names not given. I met this guy 3 weeks ago through a friend. I wasn't really looking for anything as I've been single for the last 2 years.
Hadn't had a date with anyone or even slept with any guys. I was in an abusive relationship for 12 years prior to that. Anyway, the first night, my friends and i were just dancing and celebrating a friend's bday. Nothing really happened until they all left and it was just the guy and myself.
It was already late and he just came to this part of the world not knowing the language and I offered to drop him home. I was a bit drunk to be honest and then he started kissing me and touching me and in that case i was telling him to stop because I said the taxi driver is a bit embarrassed by us.
Anyway nothing happened and i dropped him off his place and I went back home. After a few days, he added me on Facebook and said he wanted to see me. I said that's ok, let's meet up but I was also with my friends that night. He looked great and although I was attracted to him, i didn't feel I was good enough for him.
He talked about him coming to this part of the world to find work and what his aspirations were and all the adventures he did.
I thought, ok this guy is interesting and I feel a connection with him. Anyway, my friends left and it was just me and him. We went to the beach and one thing led to another, we just did it there and then. Honestly, it was a weird but nice feeling. Never had a ONS in my life as i've only ever been with one guy. It was kinda romantic. I told him it's early or late depending how u see it and that I'd like to go home to sleep.
While I was walking he said, I wonder where this is heading and i was like, well just get with the flow as i just want us to be happy. He insisted to take me home but I said it's ok, I can just take the bus as he leaves near the beach.
Anyway, he texted me and said he had a great time and that he would text me again when he woke up. Anyway, for the next couple of days, he had txt me and filled me in with his interviews and what he has been doing and although I liked him, i never initiated calling but just responding when he contacts me. On friday, i went out with a friend and saw him with a male friend. I felt a bit disappointed knowing that we were in the same restaurant and he didnt come to say hi to me.
Anyway while i was eating, he texted me and said he was with some Portuguese friends and that he was enjoying his dinner and all i said was I know and he gave me a smiley face. We didnt say bye to each other and left it at that. In the morning, I texted him and told him what had happened and he said he did not not acknowledge me as he thought i was the one going to say hi to him instead but then i didnt and just pass him by. Well the next day, we chat on facebook and he told me that i didnt have to apologise and stuff.
I said maybe i just overreacted but i didnt like to not say hi to ppl i know.
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